Netizens Outraged as Foreign Man is "Schemed" in Chaoyang District

cdn_china wrote:

I see another anti-foreigner backlash coming up, and another crackdown on illegal motorcycles (which is sorely needed

According to the Legal Evening News, another crackdown on motorcycles has been announced by the police because of this incident.

http://www.motorfans.com.cn/article/show.php?id=1778 (in Chinese)

I haven't seen any official announcement on the TMB (police) website ... yet.

In addition to mentioning "special rectification measures" (i.e., crackdown), the article provides the interesting statistic of 130,000 motorcycle registrations in the first 6 months of this year (2013). That is approximately the same number as new car registrations (20,000 per month). Because there are no new A plates being issued for motorcycles, those must all be B plate registrations (unless they are counting transfers in that 130,000 number, which would therefore include A plates).

HDrider wrote:

It is now known that a foreigner on an illegal bike, without a driving license, breaking traffic rules, riding recklessly, mows down an elderly woman in a crosswalk, mercilessly curses her thereafter, and then tries to portray himself as the subject of a scam.

Although the scumbag scooterist was obviously pretty dumb, he could have been even dumber. He could have bought fake motorcycle plates and a fake driving license through The Beijinger's classified ads. An additional 15 days in the free "hotel" operated by the police, and also several more thousands in fines.

I read over on Baidu that the girlfriend has told a reporter from the People's Daily that she hopes this event won't hurt her boyfriend's job, or social activities, because he is a really nice guy. Match made in heaven. Dumb and dumber.

It seems that the majority of critical comments in Chinese forums are focusing more on the media for bad reporting.

These are some very thoughtful insights from Sinopathic: (ecerpted from http://sinopathic.com/foreigner-goes-to-help-fallen-woman-is-extorted-for-1800-rmb-updated/)

This is not a psycho woman. This is a normal woman in an “extraordinary” circumstance of living in a zero-sum society: Whomever this woman is, she was just going about her day. She didn’t wake up wanting to extort anyone, nor is she necessarily predisposed to be prejudiced against foreigners. This isn’t an opportunity for “Win 1800 RMB now!” but instead the only thing she can do: if she doesn’t try to claim all that she can, everything will be taken away from her – such is life in a zero-sum society. It’s bully or be bullied, extort or be extorted from.

Face takes precedent over logic: As the woman struggles to win in a “zero-sum society”, she is completely committed to her own cause – anything less would be a loss of face on her behalf. This means that any circumstance, no matter how small and trivial, has the potential to blow up to “extraordinary” levels because Chinese can’t accept a loss of face; likewise, losing face, no matter how small and trivial, is construed as “terminal” and “all-encompassing”.

There is no “rule of law”: another reason why types of incidents happen is because the law permits it, and Chinese persist in doing these things because they know the law won’t help them. Once the police are called, a tired policeman will arrive and announce, “I can’t help you. The two of you must work this out between yourselves.” For all the many guidelines and rules that exist, none are helpful as the winner of disputes is not usually the one that uses logic, but the one who makes the most egregious display of being the victim.

Heroes don’t have power. Victims have power: We’ve said it before: there are not many heroes in China because heroes have so much to lose – basically, people die in order to become heroes in China. By being part of an oppressive, rigid society, Chinese have learned to “play the system” – and there is no bigger trump card than by acting as the victim. All rules and tact can be overturned when crying out that one has been aggrieved against.

 

 

In this great analysis on Sinopathic, you can view a handphone video of how big an asshole the foreigner has turned out to be:

http://sinopathic.com/foreigner-goes-to-help-fallen-woman-is-extorted-for-1800-rmb-updated/

lucreziab wrote:

Was she crossing against the light?

Unfortunately, in that video we can't see the traffic lights, or the crosswalk sign (if there is one). But one can deduce that she was crossing on a green light because:

1) The trafic moving left/right had stopped (see bus & car at bottom left, and bus on the right);

2) The oncoming traffic had stopped (perhaps a common 3 second delay where all directions are red ... or perhaps the first car was slow off the mark, which is why the idiot scooter rider went around ... if we had audio on the video, we might have heard the blaring horns)

3) Certainly by the time she was struck by the scooter, the traffic light for the oncoming traffic (and therefore her) had turned green.

If you carefully watch just before the moment of impact, the scooter tightens his turn (rather than going behind her), and the woman notices at the last moment that the scooter is going to hit her so she puts her right arm out.

She is knocked off her feet, and travels at least a couple of meters.

Regardless of poor driving habits, the scooter is obviously 100% at fault.

Shameful.

Yeah that foreigner is an idiot, but he's driving like pretty much everyone does here: it is proper form for all cars to attempt to cut in front of pedestrians in the crosswalk. That's just the way its done here.

The woman's an idiot for crossing against the light and, as any pedestrian knows in this city, to not be expecting the absolute worst in drivers, all the time, is nothing short of suicidal.

Frankly how about throw them in jail together, same cell, and don't let them out until they both decide on a mutually agreeable solution, without mediation or calls to the outside world.

PS the whole video reminds me of one of those "what's wrong with this picture" games for children -- spot all the traffic violations in this video!

[img]http://www.memecreator.org/static/images/memes/2069740.jpg[/img]

lemeilleur wrote:

Actually, it turns out these pictures and the media reports are quite biased. And the netizens are misled. Here is the video released by 平安北京 @ sina http://video.sina.com.cn/v/b/120850608-1288915263.html. It seems that the guy on scooter took a sharp turn and hit the woman.

thanks for letting us know the truth!!!

If that was actually that foreign guy who made that stupendously stupid right turn, from the far leftt lane, and couldn't even see people walking through the intersection, then not only should he pay that lady 1800, he should pay every foreign person in Beijing another 100 rmb each, for being such a nincompoop, and causing shame to our noses. That's some of the stupidest driving I have ever seen. And I want to slap him because he is also too fat for his age.

Badr is correct that more info in needed (e.g., traffic surveilance cameras).

Over on Chinese motorcycle forums, it has been pointed out that this appears to be a motorized scooter, not an e-scooter. This is because there is a throttle cable visible on one of the pictures, coming out from the throttle grip (right hand side). I'm pretty sure that e-scooters do not have this cable (the cable that goes from the grip to the carb).

If it is indeed a motorized scooter, it also appears to be unplated (illegal & uninsured), and the rider doesn't seem to have a helmet.

There has also been a video posted of the rider swearing at the woman - very bad form.

One somewhat reasonable theory that has been thrown out on Chinese forums is that the police "mediator" said something like "Look, we could seize your bike, toss you in jail for 15 days, and fine you several thousand rmb. Maybe just pay the woman's medical bills, be done with it, and we'll ignore everything else."

It is all conjecture, at this point, until the police release a report. They just might, given the high profile nature of this case. It might be upcoming on the weekly BTV Traffic program, where they interview the police and show the videos.

It is possible, of course, that the woman was indeed "brushed" and perhaps undertook a massive drama to secure "damages."

badr wrote:

One thing i don't understand when this happens is why the Polica doesn't check the cameras. There is surveillance at any and every corner and they should be able to just phone someone to check.

The only way these scheeming bastards will learn is that they get fined/jailed if they do this.

Good point but then that would require the police officers to give a damn (Which I assume the every day, run of the mill officer does not). I have a colleague who had his scooter stolen. It was all caught on video. It wasn't until his landlord got involved that he was able to get the scooter back. All it takes is one person, who cares and has a little bit of clout, to make a change. Police officers and security guards are grossly underpaid and overworked. For all we know, they could have profitted off of the incident (I hope not).

Paul Ryding wrote:

A middle-aged Chinese woman accused an unidentified foreign male of hitting her on his bike and injuring her back and legs on Monday (Decemeber 2). The alleged accident took place at the intersection of Zuojiazhuang Dongjie and Xiangheyuan Lu in Chaoyang District. Police arrived on the scene after traffic had been backed up for an hour, and eventually persuaded the man, who protested his innocence throughout the episode, to hand over RMB 1,800 to pay for the woman's subsequent "medical expenses."{C}

Eye witnesses reported that the woman fell to the ground when passing near the man and refused to let go of him unless he compensated her for the ordeal. The lady then draped herself across his bike crying in pain until the authorities arrived. The police eventually escorted both parties to nearby China Meitan General Hospital.

After a series of tests, a doctor's diagnosis found the woman to be "uninjured and perfectly healthy," but the woman collapsed again at the hospital saying she felt "uncomfortable all over her body." Following negotiations, the police eventually advised the man to pay the woman's medical expenses in order to free himself of the ordeal.

The story was first posted on Weibo and has run up 242,795 comments under the topic "Young Foreign Man Got Schemed," with almost all commentors saying the "dama" ought to be "embarrassed" at her "awful" behaviour. Some netizens even called for a human flesh search to be initiated in order to identify the woman.

Photos: news.163.com

According to the latest news, the guy did hit the woman, and 1800 kuai was not hand over to the lady but paid for the hospital and ambulance. This middle aged lady is trying to sue the person who took photos and title it as a foreign man was Schemed by a chinese woman, since so many of her acquaintances from homtown called her and insulted her. Plus, this foreign guy was cursing the lady in chinese like you ShaBi, wo cao ni da ye bla bla kinda things.....Guys, just dont believe what people wrote and tried to let you believe at the first time~

The woman is a huge xxxx for that lowilife style scheme

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The story was first posted on Weibo and has run up 242,795 comments under the topic "Young Foreign Man Got Schemed," with almost all commentors saying the "dama" ought to be "embarrassed" at her "awful" behaviour.

Weibo Netizens must not get outside much.

This is the basically the same behavior exhibited at every minor accident in Beijing.

The only difference in the proceedings is the status of the two parties:

Case 1: Perceived Higher Status Hits Perceived Lower Status: lower status feigns injury and demands compensation.

Case 2: Perceived Lower Status Hits Perceived Higher Status: higher status threatens lower status with their authority and connections and demands compensation.

Case 3: Roughly Equal / unclear status of two parties: Protracted argument over who is at fault.

In all cases, all parties remain permanently frozen at the scene in the middle of the road, thereby inconveniencing the approximately 20,000 cars that will pile up behind them in a matter of minutes.

 

 

A good reason to wear a helmet. And a face mask for pollution. Hides one's foreignness just enough to help get past scammers like this.

It's not just foreigners getting scammed. Happens to rich Chinese too.

One thing i don't understand when this happens is why the Polica doesn't check the cameras. There is surveillance at any and every corner and they should be able to just phone someone to check. 

The only way these scheeming bastards will learn is that they get fined/jailed if they do this. 

 

Today's Chinese vocabulary lesson:

丢人- Diu(1) Ren(2)

 

不要脸 - Bu(2) Yao(4) Lian(3)