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Did I miss the buss?

I started considering teaching in China last week. I've done a lot of research, (though I'm sure I can never do enough). I'm still in the states, and I'm not crazy about leaving for China until all the paperwork is in place, is this typical? I haven't applied to any schools yet, about how long does the process typically take from application start of work? Do schools hire throughout the year, or will I need to wait until the spring semester if I miss the September start dates?

I'm sure I'll have many more questions, thanks in advance.

Re: Did I miss the buss?

If you want to teach in public universities or collages, then I suppose you'd better apply first. Coz those kind of schools are not flexible on their policies.

But for those private schools or private tutors, people can always find a job easily there.

If I'm not wrong, there shoud be a banner of Vivid English School on our website. If not, go to our classifieds, there are tons of schools hiring English speakers from our website.

Good luck.

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Re: Did I miss the buss?

It doesn't matter WHAT school you apply for, private or not, you should get a job offer and visa paperwork BEFORE you come.

ONLY accept jobs from schools who will send you an invitation letter for a Z class visa, and a Foreign Expert certificate.

DO NOT accept an F visa or an L visa. (Business/visitor). If they can't offer a Z visa, then they are not allowed to hire you.

These days it's very hard to change an F or L into a Z visa.

Accept no excuses! If they say they will do it over here, don't believe them!

Re: Did I miss the buss?

Depends what you are looking for... and what your background is. Teaching at a university or such will be basically full-time work.

Tutoring one-on-one is more freelance/ part-time.

The FT stuff will want you to get a Z visa- and they will arrange it generally. It requires a university degree and 2 yrs work experience or they will need to submit paperwork saying why you are a "foreign expert" with qualifications that supercede the need for those things. You will also need to sign a contract to work for that company for a year or so to get one of those jobs.

PT- not so much.

It isn't really that difficult to change one visa to another, even now (a friend got his L visa changed to a Z visa two weeks ago when he went full-time at his job) The biggest issue with changing visas is you have to go out of country to do it (He went to Hong Kong- probably the most popular place to go)

Re: Did I miss the buss?

Are you going to teach English?

The phrase is to "miss the boat", and there is only one "s" in bus!

You might be better off to consider if you want to come to China. You are not going to get rich here teaching English, so unless you are passionate about teaching English, then that's really only a means to an end.

You can sort out everything once you are here, although that may involved leaving the country briefly again to HK.

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Re: Did I miss the buss?

Thanks for the help. After I posted, I found the info I was looking for, but I'm glad that everyone's answers reaffirmed what I found.

I've gone ahead and responded to a couple of the adds in the classified section here. Everything looks fairly good, but they want me to get to Beijing on an L visa and said they'll have it transfered to a Z once the contract is signed... I don't plan to respond until I've gotten a couple offers to compare, but is this normal or should I stick to my guns and tell them I won't leave the States until I have a Z visa in place?

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And yes, for the anally-retentive out there, I'm looking for a position as an 'English expert', I would not consider myself qualified to 'teach English'.

Re: Did I miss the buss?

Hi there,

Hey dude, you wanna steer well away from this Vivid English Club people, they truly are nasty. China is a wonderful place to work and live, do not let anyone put you off. Forget all the nonsense you read in western media, when you try to understand a culture, you have already distanced yourself from it, one should, first of all ask to be accepted as a guest, live among the people, learn the language, and then at some point, understand may come, and if it does, it will often be wordless.

I had until a few days ago, worked at vivid english club, the posting 'warning;do not work for vivid' is an understatement. This member was too nice about it, however, i am not going to get into the gory details, take the advice, stay away from vivid english club, anyone who tells you that it is ok, is lying and is being paid off. Shame on you foreigners who try to recruit teachers or english experts to this place, and there are at least two of these people.

Ask anyone who has worked there, the person who posted the warning was absolutely right about not getting salaries. Bonuses? You have got to be kidding me! They have a nerve to still keep advertising.

Best bet is to go part time in a few different places, you need a visa, get an agent to sort it out for you, plenty of them around. If you go part time in a few places, you can actually save a significant amount of money and enjoy this wonderful city.

Best of Luck

Re: Did I miss the buss?

Maybe you missed your dictionary. Or you missed school a lot in Grade One. It's 'bus.' One letter 's.' You do know the alphabet, right? I used to wonder what happened to the guy who always botched my McDonald's orders back home in Armpit, Alabama. Now I know. He's done gone to teach English in China! Yeah, yeah, I know. You weren't an English major, so you can't be expected to know your native language. But you expect to be overpaid to teach it.

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